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		<title>By: Lucky Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2009/12/17/white-american-majority-to-end-by-2050/#comment-69120</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucky Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Million, not millon...its late!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Million, not millon&#8230;its late!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucky Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2009/12/17/white-american-majority-to-end-by-2050/#comment-69119</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucky Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Withness Two, I do not like numbers thrown around without basis.  In your post of 17:42 you stated that &quot;about half&quot; of illegal immigrants are of Hispanic decent.  

When in fact, numbers from the Pew Hispanic Center, a respected authority on the issue show that &quot;About 59 percent of illegal immigrants, or 7 million, came from Mexico. Other regions included Asia (11 percent), Central America (11 percent), South America (7 percent), the Caribbean (4 percent) and the Middle East (2 percent).&quot;.  So cleary, at least 71% and up to 77% of the illegal immigrants, according to the Pew Hispanic Center are of Hispanic decent.

This is clearly a higher number than the &quot;half&quot; of 10 to 12 million you state in your post.  There is a huge difference in &quot;about half&quot; (50% = 5 to 6 millon) and 77% (9 to 10 millon) using the Pew Hispanic Center&#039;s numbers.

Please use facts and be able to verify those that you do use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Withness Two, I do not like numbers thrown around without basis.  In your post of 17:42 you stated that &#8220;about half&#8221; of illegal immigrants are of Hispanic decent.  </p>
<p>When in fact, numbers from the Pew Hispanic Center, a respected authority on the issue show that &#8220;About 59 percent of illegal immigrants, or 7 million, came from Mexico. Other regions included Asia (11 percent), Central America (11 percent), South America (7 percent), the Caribbean (4 percent) and the Middle East (2 percent).&#8221;.  So cleary, at least 71% and up to 77% of the illegal immigrants, according to the Pew Hispanic Center are of Hispanic decent.</p>
<p>This is clearly a higher number than the &#8220;half&#8221; of 10 to 12 million you state in your post.  There is a huge difference in &#8220;about half&#8221; (50% = 5 to 6 millon) and 77% (9 to 10 millon) using the Pew Hispanic Center&#8217;s numbers.</p>
<p>Please use facts and be able to verify those that you do use.</p>
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		<title>By: Poor Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2009/12/17/white-american-majority-to-end-by-2050/#comment-68999</link>
		<dc:creator>Poor Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New immigrants,  often poor and uneducated,  are  costly for local
  governments in many  areas.  Schools, for example,  often must have
  more teachers and smaller classes to meet federal and state  AYP
  mandates for this cohort.   The mandates arrive like a flood, but
  funding for them from Washington and Richmond is a slow trickle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New immigrants,  often poor and uneducated,  are  costly for local<br />
  governments in many  areas.  Schools, for example,  often must have<br />
  more teachers and smaller classes to meet federal and state  AYP<br />
  mandates for this cohort.   The mandates arrive like a flood, but<br />
  funding for them from Washington and Richmond is a slow trickle.</p>
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		<title>By: Moon-howler</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2009/12/17/white-american-majority-to-end-by-2050/#comment-68971</link>
		<dc:creator>Moon-howler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slow, I havent seen anything about amnesty.  Give me a link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slow, I havent seen anything about amnesty.  Give me a link.</p>
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		<title>By: Moon-howler</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2009/12/17/white-american-majority-to-end-by-2050/#comment-68970</link>
		<dc:creator>Moon-howler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry SA.  I think I misread something.  I apologize if I falsely accused you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry SA.  I think I misread something.  I apologize if I falsely accused you.</p>
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		<title>By: Witness Too</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2009/12/17/white-american-majority-to-end-by-2050/#comment-68960</link>
		<dc:creator>Witness Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slowpoke, I&#039;m glad you are prepared to show some leadership among the far right, put aside any sort of racial phobia or prejudice, and really think about this issue in terms of what is best for our country.  

One thing you have to do is think on the long term.  The number of Baby Boomers retiring in the next 15 years is a concrete number that can&#039;t be denied.  Statistics show that, without immigration, the United States does not (and has never) replenished it&#039;s workforce based on the birth rate of non-immigrants.  For our economy to grow, we need to not only replace those who are retiring out of the workforce, we need our workforce to grow.   Why not fix the broken system so the workers we need can come here legally in the long term?  (Whatever animosity you might have toward those already here, let me put that aside for now.)
 
It is in our national interest to keep our economy growing instead of shrinking.  The economy is important not only for individual prosperity but also for national security (tax dollars fund our military).  So if the far right were to take the position that they&#039;d rather see the work force shrink, the retirement population grow, and our economy collapse than abide by an increase in non-white percentages, I just don&#039;t understand the reasoning. 

I&#039;m only speaking of 10% of our country who feel this way.  But they are very vocal, so motivated are they by their fear.  They opposed immigration long before the the Bush Economic Crisis, so I don&#039;t think 10% unemployment is really the issue for them.  
But since you are distancing yourself from them in that regard, let&#039;s talk about the 10% unemployed we are both concerned about.  People who are working illegally right now in the farming industry are NOT going to compete with bankers and sales agents who are currently collecting unemployment payments from the federal government.  They are also not going to be eligable for those payments for 5 or more years.  In fact, the jobs that the 10% unemployed are hoping will come back depend upon, guess what, a growing economy instead of a shrinking one.  That means more workers, not less.  Our economy can only grow if we have enough low-skill workers to do the jobs that create the products that the rest of the economy buys and sells.  If instead we have businesses moving to other countries because they can&#039;t count on the labor supply in this country, that will not be a good thing for any American, regardless of race.  There will be less jobs for thar 10%, not more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slowpoke, I&#8217;m glad you are prepared to show some leadership among the far right, put aside any sort of racial phobia or prejudice, and really think about this issue in terms of what is best for our country.  </p>
<p>One thing you have to do is think on the long term.  The number of Baby Boomers retiring in the next 15 years is a concrete number that can&#8217;t be denied.  Statistics show that, without immigration, the United States does not (and has never) replenished it&#8217;s workforce based on the birth rate of non-immigrants.  For our economy to grow, we need to not only replace those who are retiring out of the workforce, we need our workforce to grow.   Why not fix the broken system so the workers we need can come here legally in the long term?  (Whatever animosity you might have toward those already here, let me put that aside for now.)</p>
<p>It is in our national interest to keep our economy growing instead of shrinking.  The economy is important not only for individual prosperity but also for national security (tax dollars fund our military).  So if the far right were to take the position that they&#8217;d rather see the work force shrink, the retirement population grow, and our economy collapse than abide by an increase in non-white percentages, I just don&#8217;t understand the reasoning. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m only speaking of 10% of our country who feel this way.  But they are very vocal, so motivated are they by their fear.  They opposed immigration long before the the Bush Economic Crisis, so I don&#8217;t think 10% unemployment is really the issue for them.<br />
But since you are distancing yourself from them in that regard, let&#8217;s talk about the 10% unemployed we are both concerned about.  People who are working illegally right now in the farming industry are NOT going to compete with bankers and sales agents who are currently collecting unemployment payments from the federal government.  They are also not going to be eligable for those payments for 5 or more years.  In fact, the jobs that the 10% unemployed are hoping will come back depend upon, guess what, a growing economy instead of a shrinking one.  That means more workers, not less.  Our economy can only grow if we have enough low-skill workers to do the jobs that create the products that the rest of the economy buys and sells.  If instead we have businesses moving to other countries because they can&#8217;t count on the labor supply in this country, that will not be a good thing for any American, regardless of race.  There will be less jobs for thar 10%, not more.</p>
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		<title>By: Second-Alamo</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2009/12/17/white-american-majority-to-end-by-2050/#comment-68959</link>
		<dc:creator>Second-Alamo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MH,

Roach coach is a term for the food trucks that serve sandwiches and such. It&#039;s an old Navy expression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MH,</p>
<p>Roach coach is a term for the food trucks that serve sandwiches and such. It&#8217;s an old Navy expression.</p>
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		<title>By: Slowpoke Rodriguez</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2009/12/17/white-american-majority-to-end-by-2050/#comment-68947</link>
		<dc:creator>Slowpoke Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, now that we&#039;re on the subject, I hear the big amnesty is coming to a Congressional session near you!  Who wants to start a pool of bets as whether it&#039;ll pass?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, now that we&#8217;re on the subject, I hear the big amnesty is coming to a Congressional session near you!  Who wants to start a pool of bets as whether it&#8217;ll pass?</p>
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		<title>By: Slowpoke Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slowpoke Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the notion that amnesty and a flood of the poorest, least educated flooding into the US is somehow in our national interest, is laughable, of course.  I heard someone make that argument today....&quot;we need more workers&quot;.   I had to point out that we&#039;re hovering around 10% unemployment (higher if you count folks who have quit looking).  I would love for someone to give me a logical reason why millions of indigent people help us out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the notion that amnesty and a flood of the poorest, least educated flooding into the US is somehow in our national interest, is laughable, of course.  I heard someone make that argument today&#8230;.&#8221;we need more workers&#8221;.   I had to point out that we&#8217;re hovering around 10% unemployment (higher if you count folks who have quit looking).  I would love for someone to give me a logical reason why millions of indigent people help us out.</p>
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		<title>By: Witness Too</title>
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		<dc:creator>Witness Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s do true M-H, there is something to fear, although I think the degree of fear is much too hysterical.  Women have survived for generations in this society without our full share of political power, all numbers aside, it took 100 years of fighting for the right to vote.  Numbers are no guarantee of political power, but it certainly doesn&#039;t hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s do true M-H, there is something to fear, although I think the degree of fear is much too hysterical.  Women have survived for generations in this society without our full share of political power, all numbers aside, it took 100 years of fighting for the right to vote.  Numbers are no guarantee of political power, but it certainly doesn&#8217;t hurt.</p>
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