AntiBVBL

Thanks Moon-Howler. Great video. I am just sitting here wondering where all the time went. Feels like many of these milestones in our history were yesterday. I am old enough to have lived through most of the events.

The words of John Kennedy’s Inaugural Speech are just a poignant today as they were in 1961.

“We observe today not a victory of party but a celebration of freedom–symbolizing an end as well as a beginning–signifying renewal as well as change.

We dare not forget today that we are the heirs of that first revolution. Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans–born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, proud of our ancient heritage–and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to which this nation has always been committed, and to which we are committed today at home and around the world.

And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you–ask what you can do for your country.
My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.

Finally, whether you are citizens of America or citizens of the world, ask of us here the same high standards of strength and sacrifice which we ask of you. With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final judge of our deeds, let us go forth to lead the land we love, asking His blessing and His help, but knowing that here on earth God’s work must truly be our own.”

Take time to read the entire speech at:
http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/Speeches/JFK/003POF03Inaugural01201961.htm

The speech is most fitting for this day and time. We will never know the great things that Kennedy could have accomplished as President because his time was cut too short.
I think Obama is cut from the same cloth.

Happy New Year to all the anti bloggers.

It will be most unfortunate if his end is the same as Kennedy’s was. I do not like Obama or his trail promises he has made, but I will support him as President. He will tax the wrong people. I am not one who makes a 6 figured salary, but the company I work for has a 7 figure income and his new taxes are going to raise the tax of the company I work for. The owner is already looking for ways to cover the new proposed taxes. Unfortunately, the small businesses, who can least afford to pay anymore tax than they do, will be the ones to suffer, which will trickle down to the middle class workers. This will happen when the small business can no longer afford to be open, especially in this economic down turn. What good will a “tax cut” be to middle class Americans if they are not employed? Taxing those with the 6+ figures of income will stifle the small business. You can not grow the economy from the ground up, you have to give incentives to those with the money to start and maintain businesses. Until that is realized, we will always have people on the welfare dole. Don’t punish someone because they got off of their ass and worked to make money, punish those who sit on their ass and expect a gov’t check every month.

Medic makes a good point – Obama’s tax plan will hurt a lot of small business owners. Small businesses are a big part of the economy, and if their growth is stifled it will not be good in the long run.

m64-How nice to see you.

I too am concerned for the small businesses. I work for one myself, and in an industry where most work for small business. However, I know many small business owners that voted for Obama. I hope it all works out.

Now, for those on the dole. Make those folks get off of their asses for sure and work. I know one woman who had a desk job as an editor, and is no longer able to work, and collects disability. Yet, this same woman is able to write 3page emails to bash others at the drop of a hat. Oh, let’s not forget these same people will be getting a 5.8% pay raise. How nice for them, and we all pay for it. While many of us will get no cost of living raise while working everyday. I have no problem with a federal retiree, or anyone on social security(over 62 that had worked until they retired getting a raise.

Defense contractors are also nervous because of the uncertainty of what he will do in that field as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHzLWLFTPPI

HAPPY NEW YEAR and wishing COUNTLESS BLESSINGS to EVERYONE

Antibvbl was born. Happy New Year everyone.

I heard Obama address the small businesses on tv. He said they would not be taxed as described.

On the other hand, no one could have spent more money than George Bush.

Devil’s Advocate – yes, defense contractors are very very worried about Obama – those of us who work for Defense Contractors remember Clinton all too well… I got laid off thanks to Clinton delaying for more than a year a contract my company had won and was about to begin work on when we got the suspend all work order shortly after Clinton took office. I hope history does not repeat itself with Obama – but already he is eyeing some contracts my current company has – but fortunately not the contract I’m working on. Obama is in general not a good thing for defense contractors.

I forgot to say: Happy New Year to everyone on here.

Defense contractors should have done well the past 7 years. I am not so sure anyone gets to breathe a sigh of relief with the economy the way it is now. I think the economy is very scary at the moment. Bush seems to have quit. Obama seems to be surrounding himself with competent, proven people.

I don’t agree with the moderators of this board much of the time on issues, but I salute your level of class and the way you maintain this board for the sake of continued dialogue. Happy New Year to everyone.

Thank you, Rick. The salute is even more meaningful coming from you. We are glad you are here. Preaching to the choir gets old and we welcome your opinions. You and I agree on some and disagree on others. Alanna and Elena and I have the same situation, yet we remain, like you do, respectful of each other.

You know who else is worried, war profiteering industry, people who like to torture, people who like to defraud taxpayers in the name of corporate greed, people who base their companies at imaginary off-shore addresses so they can make billions of dollars in the United States but pay zero United States taxes, the oil industry is also worried. White supremacists, they’re pretty mad. Neo-Nazis and Neo-cons, furious! The old style KKK (hates blacks) is mad. The new style KKK (hates Latinos), they’re mad too.

It may be true that the wealthiest people in America payed a bit more taxes during the Clinton era, but everyone else in America did a hell of a lot better than they did during the Bush era. And, low and behold! The wealthiest people in America ALSO did better financially during the Clinton era, because we had a healthier economy where the average household income grew instead of shrinking, where consumers had money to spend. Yes, the wealthiest Americans did better under Clinton. Many of them have been trained not to admit it, but many of them will.

Meanwhile, the only people you hear blindly and ignorantly wailing about a proposed percent tax increase on the super rich are (drum roll please) not super rich, just Republican.

forgot the three: three percent.

M-H, I agree, defense contractors (i.e. war profiteers) have engorged themselves on the public trust for 8 years. They even got a trillion dollar war we didn’t even need!
Now that they know the Iraq disaster will not be profitable forever, they’ll have to learn to prosper in an America were wars are not created for the sake of profit.

For better or for worse, I keep coming back. Y’all wouldn’t be so entertaining if you weren’t so infuriating sometimes.

Happy New Year, all!

Freedom of speech, no censorship and great discussions. Thank you, Anti!

A safe and happy new year to all. Let’s help each other, our neighbors, and newcomers in 2009!

Neighborhood Leaders meeting, Thursday, Jan. 8 at 7 pm Room 202A, Dev. Services Bldg, McCoart Center.

PWC, Manassas and Manassas Park are planning a joint Neighborhood Conference in February 2009. There’s a planning meeting at 10 am on Jan 12 in the Occoquan Room, McCoart Bldg. Your input is welcome.

Well wonders never cease, a Happy New Years from both Rick Bentley & Emma!

“yet we remain, like you do, respectful of each other.”

I remain an angry, argumentive p**ck! But Happy New Year.

Argument remains the truest and most honest form of communication.

@Medic

“Until that is realized, we will always have people on the welfare dole. Don’t punish someone because they got off of their ass and worked to make money, punish those who sit on their ass and expect a gov’t check every month.”

You’re asking the Dems to punish their base. Fat chance. Which segues nicely into NGL’s ignorant rant:

“Meanwhile, the only people you hear blindly and ignorantly wailing about a proposed percent tax increase on the super rich are (drum roll please) not super rich, just Republican.”

Or, those that work for a living. *News Flash* More taxes = bigger govt. = less money in our pocket (unless, of course, you live off the govt.) = bad.

You may think defense contractors “engorged themselves on the public trust for 8 years”, but for one thing there is a lot more they do than the wars overseas. We’ll see what happens after Obama downsizes critical things such as anti-missile systems, satellite communication systems, etc. In this area a lot of people are employed by defense contractors – we’ll see what that does to the local economy if Obama goes ahead with his plans to cut defense spending in a lot of areas, none of which have to do with the war in Iraq.

How about if instead of worrying about cutting defense spending, we just worry about buying from American contractors? That decision to out source the Air Force tanker contract (40 BILLION dollars) was A-OK with most of our elected and appointed officials.

For God’s sake some of our military apparel is made in China.

Our political ruling class always has people up in arms about silly things while they play their corrupt little games and ensure continued flow of wealth to their wealthy friends.

Emma

Ya’ll from a good RI girl!!

Happy New Year to you.

Rick – I agree with you – outsourcing is a huge problem, both for defense contracts as well as many other industries. It is pathetic that as you say some US military apparel is made overseas.

Transplanted RI girl, Juturna, married to a Southern boy

Someone sent me a Del’s Lemonade on Facebook today. mmmm.

Happy New Year, everyone! It sounds as though the wind out there is trying to blow in a whopper of a change!

That wind out there has a bunch of people in the dark, Censored. I am hoping a tree doesn’t land on my roof.

Rick, it’s ok to be an argumentative prick. You are fairly courteous when you do it.

Emma, as many differing opinions as you will find here, you surely can’t find us all infuriating on every subject.

MH, note that I said “sometimes”

Peace.

The 9700 block of Damascus & Lafayette were both without power from about 9am to 11:30am this morning. NOVEC is sure to stay busy as long as this wind keeps up. My daughter said “it sounds like the Wizard of Oz”. We all laughed, and my husband said “hope we don’t see any witches on bikes flying by”. Needless to say, we all laughing. Those living in Sudley won’t have to worry as much, because their powerlines are underground, but they do NOT have street lights.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

It is a little unsettling to have your house surrounded by tall trees when the wind is this strong. I guess we’re lucky that they’re leafless and offer less wind resistance. A friend tells me that she wants her trees in leaf if they fall on her house – thinks that the nice soft leaves and branches will cushion the fall and subsequent damage. Pffft. I’d rather them be leafless and not fall. Besides the sap’s down now and they weigh less.

I’m surprised that our power isn’t out. NOVEC has done a good job over the last ten years or so maintaining their lines here. I upped the thermostsat a bit just in case we lose it.

So Chris, see any little men with little parts behind the little screen? Monkeys will fly by as well as witch -bikers. The crew will still be sauntering around looking for a brain, a heart and some courage. Right now it is a booming voice behind a curtain.

Censored,
I’ve got a couple of really tall oaks, and all my neighbors have a bunch of tall trees too. We lost a Bradford Pear, and two 65′ oaks a few years back. We got real lucky we didn’t suffer and property damage. It was pretty wild the BP split three ways, and came within 6inches of two vehicles and the stoop. One of the oaks lost a few limbs in the pool, but luckily didn’t damage the pool. I don’t even want to think of a tree coming down on my roof.

RAR-
I’ve not dared to look outside in fear of what I might see flying by. I did loose a big red ribbon from the front door.

To Everyone, to those who agree with me , to those who respectfully disagree, and to those who insult me, I wish you all a peaceful 2009! May we all search for the common ground that brings us together as opposed to tearing us apart.

This blog, Anti, was Alanna’s baby, and to her, I will be forever thankful

Chris, did you lose your trees in one of the hurricanes? Our neighbor had two fall on his house but they damaged only the gutters and fascia board. Bradford pears are notorious for splitting – as well as looking gorgeous but smelly stinky while in bloom.

Hmmm. Maybe I should add a wicked witch to one of my BVBL inspired tableaux. This has been a good year for politically inspired art work made from junk and I use the word “art” very loosely. Haha.

Emma – I married a guy from Tennessee. Makes for interesting dialog sometimes.
Del’s lemonade…. Yum. We have Dusty’s Dairy Bar in Westerly that sells that. Best Maple Walnut on earth as well.

I vote we lose the anger in ‘09. Tell those stupid radio shows hosts we’re through and they’re through influencing our lives and encouraging rage. Rage is okay, but should be somewhat strategic.

Censored,
Lost the trees during a horrible wind/thunder/rain storm. I think there were even some tornado sightings in the Manassas area. Red Dawn loved my bradford. I don’t miss that smelly tree. Yes, it was beautiful in bloom, but in addition to that is was a “squirrel haven”. Those rascals(boys) would spend the day flying from the tree to the porch roof top chasing after the girls. The noise drove me almost as crazy as the year that the motorized scooters were buzzing all over WG.

I would love to see some “art” of the wicked witch.

Mando, thanks for proving my point. You have and you will live a more comfortable life when our government is run for and by the people; not for and by the corporations.

I understand that war is profitable. But it is not the only thing that is profitable. War profiteers are not the only employers around here. War profiteering has been the business of our federal government. But it need not always be the business of our federal government.

Mando, if you do not own stock in war profiteering companies or oil companies, you should be glad to see the Bush/Cheney Oil & War Inc. corporation dismantled, and a true democracy take root in its place.

Hey – look at this article. This is due to:

1) PWC VA RULE of LAW
2) Nativist’s Making an Impression
3) HSM/BVBL
4) The 2008 Presidential Election
5) The economy, stupid

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Border-area arrests of immigrants at lowest level since 1976
USA TODAY
Published: 12.29.2008
EL PASO – The number of people caught trying to sneak into the United States from Mexico is at its lowest level since the mid-1970s, and it’s a sign of tougher enforcement and the weaker U.S. economy, officials said.
The Border Patrol caught 705,000 people along the U.S.-Mexico border in fiscal 2008, which ended Sept. 30, new agency figures showed. That’s nearly 2,000 a day and the lowest number since 1976, when 675,000 people were caught entering illegally between San Diego and central Texas.
The Border Patrol has long used the number of apprehensions as an indicator of how many people try to cross U.S. borders illegally. The latest figures show that recent steps – including building a fence, adding more Border Patrol agents and prosecuting more people caught sneaking across the border – are deterring illegal crossings, officials said. The weak U.S. economy also is discouraging immigrants, officials and analysts said.
“We’re definitely making it tougher on them,” Border Patrol Assistant Chief Lloyd Easterling said. “I’m not telling you that we’ve won the war, but we are making headway.”
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said in a Dec. 19 speech that there has been “a collapse in the number of people who come across the border illegally.”
Chertoff cited the weaker U.S. economy and “tough enforcement,” including the addition of 6,000 Border Patrol agents since mid-2006 and the construction of 526 miles of fence along the border since 2007. About 97 percent of illegal border crossers enter through Mexico and about 90 percent are Mexican, the Border Patrol said.
Josiah Heyman, a border expert at the University of Texas at El Paso, said it’s impossible to know why apprehensions are declining. “We know from the past that economic conditions of the U.S. affect migration. Word gets back to Mexico really fast what the job opportunities are or are not,” Heyman said.
He said, “It’s possible we’ve crossed some threshold where it’s risky and expensive to try to get to the U.S. (illegally) so it’s beginning to discourage people.” Illegal immigrants often pay a smuggler about $2,000, Heyman said.
Border apprehensions have fluctuated widely for decades. They peaked at 1.7 million in the mid-1980s, fell to about 1 million in the late 1980s, and hit 1.6 million again in 2000. Border Patrol staffing has climbed steadily to 18,000 agents from 4,000 in 1993.
The Congressional Research Service said in May that the number of apprehensions is “the most reliable” measure of illegal crossings but they do not give a complete picture because “there are no reliable estimates for how many aliens successfully evade capture.”
About 11.9 million illegal immigrants live in the United States, according to an estimate in October by the Pew Hispanic Center.

“You have and you will live a more comfortable life when our government is run for and by the people; not for and by the corporations.”

If you think that’s coming with Obama, ease up on the meds.

“If you think that’s coming with Obama, ease up on the meds.” Perhaps you’re right. So sometime in the future you can come back and say, “I told you so.” In the mean time, we’re just going to have to watch and wait. Nobody can predict the future, especially in this crazy world we live in today.

Chris,

It aggravates me to see people on SSI disability that could work if they had to. My father tried 3 times to get it. He had 2 heart valves replaced and had a severely broken leg that caused him great pain after it healed. They denied him disability each time. When my mom went after he passed away, the judge asked where was my dad, the attorney told him he had passed away. The judge said, well it looks like he was worse off than we thought. It was everything my mom could do to keep from going up to the bench and slapping the $hit out of the judge.

Mando,

I agree with you on that one!!

There are no miracle workers. I guess more people thought Obama would be better for the country than McCain. The jury is out on who is right and who is wrong.

Juturna, does that mean that PWC saved the nation with its resolution? sarcasm button on maximum overdrive.

Medic,
It’s horrible. I know of a couple people within a few years of retiring with similar health conditions that were denied. Yet, they will give it away for decades to lazy a$$ folks in their 30’s and 40’s. This is absolutely senseless to me. I’m sure it did take everything your mom had to keep her cool.

Your court sure looked festive!

“The jury is out on who is right and who is wrong. ”

I don’t think so. The two parties have colluded against the American people so vociferously for so long that I think it’s clear they’re both wrong for America. They’ve colluded to give us Joe Six-Pack bailing out Wall Street speculators, a mortgage and credit crisis, muddled foreign policies, open borders and degradation of American wages for the sake of the wealthy … both are corrupt, entirely.

I would agree with Rick that both parties are corrupt. I am not so sure Obama is part of that corruption though. If your theory is right, then no one can be president.

I got to the point where I was so sick of the entire election process I didn’t really care who won.

Wow, this thread took off. I, too, would like to take this opportunity to wish everyone a Happy New Year. It’s hard to believe that February will be the one year anniversary for Anti. I really appreciate everybody and their continued participation in what usually is a very respectful dialogue, especially considering the heightened emotions that many have on some subject matters. And, let me say that I sincerely look forward to another year of continued discussion.

Happy New Year to everyone. May 2009 be the best year of everybody’s life!

Okay, I just heard a song that I had to play for everyone!!!!!!!
My computer is sick and I had to come over to my neighbor’s house to post it!!! LOL!!! They are over at OUR house helping us celebrate the old year and looking forward to the new year TOGETHER. I Love My Neighbors!

THE SONG HAPPENS TO BE KID ROCK’S “ROLL ON”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T211rf5aZnQ

ROLL ON EVERYONE LOL

Okay, later…back to the good time Check in with ya’ll sometime soon
PEACE

Alanna,

Thank you for putting up this blog (and putting up with bloggers such as myself). It’s a pleasure to have such a reasoned voice in Prince William County.

Happy New Year to you and all of the regulars who have treated me so courteously over the past year.

Good Luck with your computer Redawn and thanks for the video.

This is one of the funniest things I’ve read in 2008, and I just found it.
Click on the link below to see some funny posts, and more on “TASK FORCE ROYSE OPERATIONS ORDER – CAMPAIGN TOP SECRET”

Save Us from Chris Royse
by: NoVaCommuter
Mon Dec 08, 2008 at 13:26:09 PM EST
(This is hilarious! We’ll have to watch out for Royse in the future… – promoted by Aimee Fausser)

The campaign for the Woodbridge Board of Supervisor’s seat is over, Frank Principi won and Chris Royse whimpered his way out of local politics. Or did he?

Mr. Royse has an over important sense of his own worth, this transplant to the DC area who wants everyone’s neighborhood to be upper middle class, white collar and hailing from the heartland. Mr. Royse has delusions of grandeur, ones that make him a major player in the Republican party, a player at the center with minions to toady to his ego.

His website was still up until recently. After the election results were in, it was just a basic page, no information, no links but look what you found if you Googled Chris Royse & Woodbridge. Thanks to the Internet WayBack Machine, this document is archived for history. You know what thy say about people who don’t learn from history, right?

“TASK FORCE ROYSE OPERATIONS ORDER – CAMPAIGN TOP SECRET”

I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m not keen on the idea of this guy being leader of anything more important than a paintball game.

http://www.newdominionproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=10

Information only, funny what you can unearth when you are least expecting it. Is it satire or is it really part of bitter Boy’s campaign directives?

After Edison’s recording of Mary Had a Little Lamb, Kenny G’s video starts with the Great Depression and ends up with Kennedy speaking passing the torch. Looking back from the end of 2008, there is something so ironic about that video which was prepared for the millenium.

We are teetering on the brink of another Great Depression as we have just elected a bi-racial president of the United States.

Of course I leave out the obvious–Edison recorded on a tinfoil ‘record’ in 1877, just 12 years after the end of the Civil War. Today we watch it on a video, made some 123 years later. Recording the human voice happened before flight. New Years is a good time for reflection.

Alanna, I hope we are planning a big first anniversary bash.

At first I didn’t believe that Royse’s comments had been pulled off the inova website, I just thought they couldn’t be found again, so I went in search of them myself. Lo and behold, they are GONE. Thanks to whoever captured them and pasted them here. They should live on in infamy, combined with his letter to the editor attacking Principi.

Also, in response to Chicko’s comments from bvbl, that I had extensive personal email contact with any of the Supervisors is blatantly false. For the most part, all Supervisors would receive a copy of whatever opinion I had on a particular subject matter. I defy Widawski or anybody to show otherwise. Put up or shut-up as the old saying goes.

Great Idea Moonhowler about an anniversary bash. Let’s plan on it.

Alanna, we should all be used to the lies by now, but somehow I forget that not everyone operates on a code of personal ethics. Ch!cko the S!cko does not.

The supervisors represent all of us in the long run. If it is a county issue, then all should know our wishes, IMHO.

Alanna,
Those words of Chris Royse’s will live on forever here.
Posted by ( Chris Royse ) on December 22, 2008 at 1:26 pm

This an unfortunate and unnecessary tragedy. However, we are fortunate to have such a fantastic police department protecting us. What a coward, to shoot a man lying down and and woman, then grieving Mother, upon discovering her son’s fate. While I won’t advocate for this horrible person to be put to death I will pray he remain off our streets forever. Now is the time to remember that we all are empowered by the Constitution to protect ourselves and our families and need to be ready at any instance to do so. While taking up arms to defend ourselves and our families is not necessarily for everyone, it is our right and, unfortunately, remains a necessity in today’s society. Hopefully this horrible incident will serve as a forever reminder to anti-Second Amendment leaders like Frank Principi of it’s importance.

Below is the link to the original letter from Dcember 6, 2008.
http://www.insidenova.com/isn/news/local/article/press_conference_to_be_held_in_regards_to_the_double_homicides_this_morning/26658/

http://www.insidenova.com/isn/news/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/article/royse_calls_out_connolly_principi/25791/

Re. government by the corporations and for the corporations: we got to see that philosophy of government played out to its full extent during the Bush administration. Because they so adeptly exploited 9/11, they were able to control Congress as well, and with “deregulation” and almost no policing of the energy industry, the oil industry, the banking industry, mortgage back securities, car manufacturing companies, etc., we got to see just where a purely Republican economic philosophy leads us. To ruin. Absolute ruin.

Ivan is right, we have to wait and see what the alternative is. If all we do is go back to the Clinton economy, that would be a great achievement. But I am hoping for much more. We have gone too far down the road of worshiping profit before all else. There has to be some other factor that outweighs profit when we decide whether to go to war, or whether to build an electric car, or whether to let corporations commit fraud in their accounting practices, or whether to outsource jobs, or whether to allow corporations to not pay taxes burdening the rest of us all the more.

Mando is so worried that nothing can be as profitable as continuous war. But investing in America’s future can be just as profitable. It’s just that it won’t be the same group of aristocratic fat cats making all the dough. They’ve defrauded the American people long enough. Now it’s time to put our taxpayer money toward programs like education, infrastructure, universal health care, and a clean energy economy.

BTW, am I the first AntiBVBL poster of 2009?

NGL, it sure looks like you are the alpha poster for 2009.

Don’t forget that the republicans went after Martha Stewart. Too bad their sights weren’t on Madoff.

M-h, and the nutball faction of the R-Party has gone after Tinky-Winky as well. Better to keep an eye on fictional characters and your neighbors’ bedrooms than the nation’s finances. (Hmmm. What do these things have in common – SEX!!!) I hope this year is one marked by rationality.

The last I heard Sponge Bob was under fire also because he had gay characters and was ‘dirty,’ whatever that means.

Censored, have you ever noticed the correlation between those who lambaste about sex and those who get caught in very embarrassing situations? Larry Craig, the crying preacher whose name escapes me and the ‘let’s hire more boy pages’ congressmen, just as a place to start.

M-h, if I haven’t told you our Congressman Robert Bauman story, remind me the next time we boost the economy. He’s another “moralist” who liked to flip the pages.

NGL,

It’s not regulation that keeps people honest, it’s fear of losing money. Fear of loss is the best regulator of the market.

Regulation simply doesn’t work. The banking industry is one of the most thoroughly regulated. But just as all of us were ‘regulated’ when we were children, we always found a way to break the rules. So too does industry.

Madoff is an example.

There are no safe bets.

It’s the regulation that’s a problem because it creates the illusion that companies can be trusted to tell the truth. Quite simply, they cannot ever be fully trusted. They will hide the ugly details. And oftentimes the ‘regulators’ themselves are corrupt or incompetent.

The whole government is one big corporation that lies to us. After the depression worsens, they will confiscate our gold and put in exchange controls to prevent us from buying overseas securities.

The govt is lying to us about the soundness of our own economy. You can see the official economic charts as well as what is estimated to be the real truth here at this site:

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data

The govt tells us unemployment is between 6-7%. Does anyone out there really believe that crap?

Analysis of the data indicates it may be as high as 16%.

You can find an explanation of the deception inherent in the government statistics here:

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=281349-9

Censored, I can’t wait to hear. I might even already know it but I would like to hear it again if I have.

Almeda,

How is the foreclosure clean-up business going for you?

Why? Do you need a job cleaning toilets?

elitestliberals (sic), I believe that should be Mrs. Almeda to you. Now why did you feel it necessary to come over here and ask a question like that? I know who you are and I know you don’t need to know about businesses Mrs. Almeda or her family may or may not be in. Just had to stir it up, or perhaps nothing was happening on insidenova and you got tired of looking for someone to banter with.

Feel free to debate or discuss issues here. However, do not come here just to pick at people or discuss personal issues that have no place on this blog. Next time I will call you by name.

elitestliberals is just simply an elitest. Their identy is no big secrect, because it’s the same ole crap from him/her all the time. I hope Santa brought him/her some knee pads for when she’s not stirring up trouble. There’s no middle of the road with that individual.

Susan, 1. January 2009, 20:22

Why? Do you need a job cleaning toilets?

I am sure Mrs. Almeda has found plenty of help!

Cat Scratch Fever, 2. January 2009, 9:12

elitestliberals is just simply an elitest. Their identy is no big secrect, because it’s the same ole crap from him/her all the time. I hope Santa brought him/her some knee pads for when she’s not stirring up trouble. There’s no middle of the road with that individual.

Wow, and a happy new year to you as well. Well, you can’t take the trailer talk out of some folks.

Now what is ‘trailer talk?’ I guess you weren’t kidding about the name….which if I may be so bold, should be spelled Elitistliberals.

What’s wrong with living in a trailer? All sorts of perfectly good people live in mobile homes. Young folks just getting started to seniors who no longer need the expensive of keeping up a larger home.

What’s trailer talk about knee pads? Many use them when in their profession and day-to-day life such as, but not limited to; scrubbing floors, laying carpet, sealing floors or cleaning toilets,etc. I think your mind is into “trailer talk/thoughts”.

I hope you do have a Happy New Year!! (sincere wish)