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	<title>Comments on: Chris Royse&#8217;s Controversial Letter to the Editor re. Christmas, Abortion</title>
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		<title>By: Moon-howler</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/08/chris-royses-letter-to-the-editor/#comment-38997</link>
		<dc:creator>Moon-howler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supervisor Frank Principi has a letter to the editor in today&#039;s News and Messenger clarifying his position as a pro-life candidate.  It was a well-written letter.  

The attack continues on the website and on the dark screen.  Greg pretends he is an historian and pontificates about the expression &#039;seperation of church and state.&#039;

Funny.  When I was a kid, Catholics went out of their way to show everyone that they thought for themselves politically and their church and religion were independent of their politics.  I have read where that was a bit road block with Kennedy.  People feared the Pope would tell the politicians what to do and he would influence American politics.  

Nowadays, militant Catholics want to lord Catholic edicts over people&#039;s heads and control how they vote on political issues.  It&#039;s like the worm has turned 180 degrees in 50 years.

The JV Catholics (Episcopalians) aren&#039;t in much better shape.  They have a full blown schism going on over the ordination of an openly gay bishop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supervisor Frank Principi has a letter to the editor in today&#8217;s News and Messenger clarifying his position as a pro-life candidate.  It was a well-written letter.  </p>
<p>The attack continues on the website and on the dark screen.  Greg pretends he is an historian and pontificates about the expression &#8217;seperation of church and state.&#8217;</p>
<p>Funny.  When I was a kid, Catholics went out of their way to show everyone that they thought for themselves politically and their church and religion were independent of their politics.  I have read where that was a bit road block with Kennedy.  People feared the Pope would tell the politicians what to do and he would influence American politics.  </p>
<p>Nowadays, militant Catholics want to lord Catholic edicts over people&#8217;s heads and control how they vote on political issues.  It&#8217;s like the worm has turned 180 degrees in 50 years.</p>
<p>The JV Catholics (Episcopalians) aren&#8217;t in much better shape.  They have a full blown schism going on over the ordination of an openly gay bishop.</p>
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		<title>By: ShellyB</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/08/chris-royses-letter-to-the-editor/#comment-38853</link>
		<dc:creator>ShellyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know anything about Connolly other than that he was unafraid of the Corey Stewart/Greg Leteicq team, even when they seemed to have a legion of followers (digital or otherwise).  There were plenty of Dem&#039;s who ran for cover in 2007.  Connolly stood tall, took the heat, and won reelection while he was at it.  I&#039;m glad he is now my Congressman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know anything about Connolly other than that he was unafraid of the Corey Stewart/Greg Leteicq team, even when they seemed to have a legion of followers (digital or otherwise).  There were plenty of Dem&#8217;s who ran for cover in 2007.  Connolly stood tall, took the heat, and won reelection while he was at it.  I&#8217;m glad he is now my Congressman.</p>
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		<title>By: Moon-howler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moon-howler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lafayette,  I will defend old Connolly on everything, even his Fairfax Tude.  I don&#039;t know much about him but I don&#039;t like the communion threat on anyone.  

Good grief.  I feel like it is the middle ages.  The Catholic Church doesn&#039;t need that kind of bad publicity.  Most people aren&#039;t like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lafayette,  I will defend old Connolly on everything, even his Fairfax Tude.  I don&#8217;t know much about him but I don&#8217;t like the communion threat on anyone.  </p>
<p>Good grief.  I feel like it is the middle ages.  The Catholic Church doesn&#8217;t need that kind of bad publicity.  Most people aren&#8217;t like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s almost over...almost.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whhbPVrb5KM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s almost over&#8230;almost.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whhbPVrb5KM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whhbPVrb5KM</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MH-
I would defend the communion part too, and nothing more. I&#039;m not Catholic and don&#039;t feel it&#039;s my place to say who should and should not be given communion. I grew up in a church where we took communion weekly, and didn&#039;t have to stop by a middle man&#039;s confessional first. 

Yeah, I saw some of those Fimian signs in WG/Sudley, and we&#039;re not even in that Congressional district. I believe the fanatics will always flock together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MH-<br />
I would defend the communion part too, and nothing more. I&#8217;m not Catholic and don&#8217;t feel it&#8217;s my place to say who should and should not be given communion. I grew up in a church where we took communion weekly, and didn&#8217;t have to stop by a middle man&#8217;s confessional first. </p>
<p>Yeah, I saw some of those Fimian signs in WG/Sudley, and we&#8217;re not even in that Congressional district. I believe the fanatics will always flock together.</p>
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		<title>By: Moon-howler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moon-howler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Connolly has Fairfax &#039;TUDE, Lafayette.  Notice no one defending Frank Principi has shed one tear for Connolly.  I should be a good person and stand up and say I defend him too.  Ok.  I defend Connolly too as far as communion goes.  Done now.  

I didn&#039;t understand the people in Prince William County in Frank Wolf&#039;s district with their Fimian signs.  I figured they had drunk so much kool aid they didn&#039;t know where they were.  

The only people I saw with the signs were religious fanatics so perhaps Mr. Connolly was on to something.  In fact, I know he was.  Best expose before the election.  Keith Fimian never had a chance.  No radical Republican does now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Connolly has Fairfax &#8216;TUDE, Lafayette.  Notice no one defending Frank Principi has shed one tear for Connolly.  I should be a good person and stand up and say I defend him too.  Ok.  I defend Connolly too as far as communion goes.  Done now.  </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t understand the people in Prince William County in Frank Wolf&#8217;s district with their Fimian signs.  I figured they had drunk so much kool aid they didn&#8217;t know where they were.  </p>
<p>The only people I saw with the signs were religious fanatics so perhaps Mr. Connolly was on to something.  In fact, I know he was.  Best expose before the election.  Keith Fimian never had a chance.  No radical Republican does now.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake the Snake</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/08/chris-royses-letter-to-the-editor/#comment-38831</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake the Snake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that Gospel Greg is attempting to become Pope Gregory the 69th and Justice Greg all in one fell swoop.  Couple others are attempting to turn this Royse problem into anti-catholic bashing.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  Christians and non-Christians alike are appalled that one person would bash a fellow parishoner like this.  Talk about UN-Christian behavior.  

Looks like Pope/Justice Gregory is going to be real busy trying to sort out all of Catholicism and all of the Supreme Court to bail his friend Royse with Foot in Mouth out of this one.  

BTW, Pope Gregory&#039;s interpretation of Catholicism is something to behold.  This must just be universal knowledge.  Hiiiiisssssssssssssssss!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that Gospel Greg is attempting to become Pope Gregory the 69th and Justice Greg all in one fell swoop.  Couple others are attempting to turn this Royse problem into anti-catholic bashing.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  Christians and non-Christians alike are appalled that one person would bash a fellow parishoner like this.  Talk about UN-Christian behavior.  </p>
<p>Looks like Pope/Justice Gregory is going to be real busy trying to sort out all of Catholicism and all of the Supreme Court to bail his friend Royse with Foot in Mouth out of this one.  </p>
<p>BTW, Pope Gregory&#8217;s interpretation of Catholicism is something to behold.  This must just be universal knowledge.  Hiiiiisssssssssssssssss!</p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHWN,
I&#039;m with Moon, you covered it. 

She was right about me just bringing the information over here. I can assure you, I was NOT making excuses for Mr. Royse. 

I&#039;ve been thinking about those adds for the Congressional race between Connelly and Fimian. I wonder if those adds that Mr. Royse is calling out were actually paid for and approved by Connelly or was that the work of the VA Democrats. Any thoughts? I do think this is something worth considering. I too am no fan of Connelly because of comments and attitude towards my native PWC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHWN,<br />
I&#8217;m with Moon, you covered it. </p>
<p>She was right about me just bringing the information over here. I can assure you, I was NOT making excuses for Mr. Royse. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about those adds for the Congressional race between Connelly and Fimian. I wonder if those adds that Mr. Royse is calling out were actually paid for and approved by Connelly or was that the work of the VA Democrats. Any thoughts? I do think this is something worth considering. I too am no fan of Connelly because of comments and attitude towards my native PWC.</p>
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		<title>By: Moon-howler</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/08/chris-royses-letter-to-the-editor/#comment-38828</link>
		<dc:creator>Moon-howler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whwn,  wow.  No argument here.  You seem to have covered it.  

I don&#039;t believe Lafayette was delivering a message.  That message was posted on the insidenova space and she brought it here for our convenience.  I know there has been a lot of trouble with that site today.  I think it had too much traffic or else people complaining about Royse&#039;s message  got marked as inappropriate.  Sometimes that freezes your comments.  I am not sure how it works but that is a famous trick that &lt;strong&gt;&lt;i&gt;some people&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/strong&gt; employ to shut down mainstream speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whwn,  wow.  No argument here.  You seem to have covered it.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe Lafayette was delivering a message.  That message was posted on the insidenova space and she brought it here for our convenience.  I know there has been a lot of trouble with that site today.  I think it had too much traffic or else people complaining about Royse&#8217;s message  got marked as inappropriate.  Sometimes that freezes your comments.  I am not sure how it works but that is a famous trick that <strong><i>some people</i> </strong> employ to shut down mainstream speech.</p>
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		<title>By: WhyHereWhyNow</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2008/12/08/chris-royses-letter-to-the-editor/#comment-38826</link>
		<dc:creator>WhyHereWhyNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Layayette, thank you for relaying the message, but Chris Royse should really post excuses for himself.  No doubt he is reading every word we say, but dares not respond less he unleash a fresh round of scrutiny.    

As we have discussed, Royse&#039;s unfortunate lapse in judgment has exposed his lingering bitterness toward Supervisor Frank Principi stemming from the 2007 election.  If indeed this quote is the only excuse Royse has rendered, he has only succeeded in underscoring this embarrassing revelation.  

The Congressman-Elect has done his share to provoke conservatives in Fairfax and in Prince William County.  But Prince William County&#039;s freshman Supervisor Frank Principi has proven to be a competent and well-studied advocate for this county&#039;s long term interests, as well as a formidable counterweight to our conniving and incompetent Chairman who, without such a rival in 2007, all but destroyed this county beyond any hope of recovery. 

Though I am no fan of Connolly&#039;s, I have to point out that any attempt to equate a political mailer with Royse&#039;s shameful attack on Supervisor Principi is beyond ludicrous.  Connolly&#039;s mailers during the recent Congressional race made an issue of Fimian&#039;s donors, which included organizations with strong pro-choice views (possibly bordering on sexism).  In response, Fimian used Catholicism as both a sword and shield, accusing Connolly of attacking a faith they both share (?). 

Royse here is taking the same tact, but his excuse ... essentially that he is attacking Principi using the same tactic with which Connolly attacked Fimian ... fails the smell test for two, even more obvious reasons:

1)  This is not election season; it is the holiday season as Royse announces in the opening of his putrid letter.  Frank Principi does not face reelection until 2011, and there is no guarantee that Royse will secure his party&#039;s nomination to challenge him a second time.  Frank Principi is Chris Royse&#039;s District Supervisor; not his political opponent.  Others have said that Royse&#039;s attack was political in nature as opposed to religious.  &lt;strong&gt;A more accurate characterization for Royse&#039;s attack would be to call it personal in nature. &lt;/strong&gt;  This is truly, truly unfortunate.

2)  It may go without saying but I&#039;ll say it anyway.   Principi was not a strategist in the Connolly campaign.  So, if &quot;But Mom, he did it first&quot; is Royse&#039;s excuse, then his Christmas bitterness card should have been directed at the Congressman-Elect; not at Supervisor Principi.  &lt;strong&gt;Even if we accept the specious claim that Royse&#039;s personal issues with Principi and Connolly&#039;s electioneering are morally equivalent, the upshot of this entire fiasco is that Principi comes out looking like the bigger man, while Royse paints himself as small, petty, unscrupulous and unhinged.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Layayette, thank you for relaying the message, but Chris Royse should really post excuses for himself.  No doubt he is reading every word we say, but dares not respond less he unleash a fresh round of scrutiny.    </p>
<p>As we have discussed, Royse&#8217;s unfortunate lapse in judgment has exposed his lingering bitterness toward Supervisor Frank Principi stemming from the 2007 election.  If indeed this quote is the only excuse Royse has rendered, he has only succeeded in underscoring this embarrassing revelation.  </p>
<p>The Congressman-Elect has done his share to provoke conservatives in Fairfax and in Prince William County.  But Prince William County&#8217;s freshman Supervisor Frank Principi has proven to be a competent and well-studied advocate for this county&#8217;s long term interests, as well as a formidable counterweight to our conniving and incompetent Chairman who, without such a rival in 2007, all but destroyed this county beyond any hope of recovery. </p>
<p>Though I am no fan of Connolly&#8217;s, I have to point out that any attempt to equate a political mailer with Royse&#8217;s shameful attack on Supervisor Principi is beyond ludicrous.  Connolly&#8217;s mailers during the recent Congressional race made an issue of Fimian&#8217;s donors, which included organizations with strong pro-choice views (possibly bordering on sexism).  In response, Fimian used Catholicism as both a sword and shield, accusing Connolly of attacking a faith they both share (?). </p>
<p>Royse here is taking the same tact, but his excuse &#8230; essentially that he is attacking Principi using the same tactic with which Connolly attacked Fimian &#8230; fails the smell test for two, even more obvious reasons:</p>
<p>1)  This is not election season; it is the holiday season as Royse announces in the opening of his putrid letter.  Frank Principi does not face reelection until 2011, and there is no guarantee that Royse will secure his party&#8217;s nomination to challenge him a second time.  Frank Principi is Chris Royse&#8217;s District Supervisor; not his political opponent.  Others have said that Royse&#8217;s attack was political in nature as opposed to religious.  <strong>A more accurate characterization for Royse&#8217;s attack would be to call it personal in nature. </strong>  This is truly, truly unfortunate.</p>
<p>2)  It may go without saying but I&#8217;ll say it anyway.   Principi was not a strategist in the Connolly campaign.  So, if &#8220;But Mom, he did it first&#8221; is Royse&#8217;s excuse, then his Christmas bitterness card should have been directed at the Congressman-Elect; not at Supervisor Principi.  <strong>Even if we accept the specious claim that Royse&#8217;s personal issues with Principi and Connolly&#8217;s electioneering are morally equivalent, the upshot of this entire fiasco is that Principi comes out looking like the bigger man, while Royse paints himself as small, petty, unscrupulous and unhinged.</strong></p>
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