“Stewart’s Wife Strains Resources and Causes Sprawl” What?
From FAIR’s website, where they once again accuse legal immigrants of causing economic hardship on localities. How, how did Corey allow himself to become a tool for this organization? So, if we believe Federation for American Immigration Reform(FAIR), then Corey’s own wife, who is a legal permanent resident is to blame for straining resources and causing sprawl!
Can you imagine these organizations like FAIR & Immigration Reform Law Institute(IRLI) claim to be for legal immigration but at the same time have their representatives write books like – “The Case Against Immigration” which is currently being hauked by Mark Krikorian from IRLI.
Listen, if you want to write a book like that fine, just don’t lie to me and tell me that you’re pro-immigrant!
Around the Country
Virginia
The northern Virginia suburbs of Washington, D.C. have become a hotbed of immigration reform activism in recent years. In 2006, the city of Herndon voted out of office all but one local official who had supported a day labor hiring site for illegal aliens. More recently, Prince William County has attracted national attention by instituting local immigration enforcement policies and cooperating closely with federal immigration authorities. A new report by the University of Virginia demonstrates why local residents are so concerned about mass immigration. The report finds that one in five northern Virginia residents is now foreign-born and statewide the immigrant population has doubled since 1980. This rapid influx of both government sanctioned and illegal immigrants has strained local resources and contributed to population driven sprawl in the region.
Great find Alanna! Wow, don’t I just LOVE being used as marketing tool by a hate group(sarcasm!)
How could Corey AND John not have done just a modicum of research to find out the background of IRLI and FAIR?
Let me help clarify about sprawl and strain on local resources! OVERDEVELOPMENT in the wrong areas creates sprawl! Approving thousands of new homes without the proper infrastructure in place creates the strain on local resources! Geez, talk about spinning of facts! Blaming “illegal immigrants” for sprawl and strain on resources is a new one on me, considering that I have been fighting “sprawl” for fives years and NEVER once has the smart growth community EVER blamed this dilema on “illegals/hispanics” !
does not seem like a hate group to me, they have it right.
if anyone can be labled a hate group it’s you people, you all hate american and hate the county. I hope you go to bed ashamed of the crap you type. self-deport yourselves please.
Elena,
dont you have a job other than finding a cause to support? if not, get one and see how the real world lives.
Good work Alanna.
I’ve long found it bizarre that so many Red Spots and their supporters who happen to be immigrants or whose spouses are immigrants don’t see the irony of an anti-immigrant organization writing the resolution they support. They’ll say that they’re against “illegal” immigration, but FAIR doesn’t make that distinction. My opinion is that they, the legal immigrants, know that the Letiecq’s of the world dislike and vilify “illegal” immigrants – and probably any immigrant who doesn’t think or look like them – and they don’t want to be ostracized so they yell “I’m legal. I did it the right way. I’m not like all those dirty immigrants you despise!”
Elvis,
Is deportation your solution to everything? Honestly, I am getting tired of you and others saying “self-deport” or “go live in another country” when someone thinks a different way than you do. No matter how many times you tell everyone here that they hate America or hate the county, our voices and valid opinions WILL NOT go away. When you say things like that, it just sounds like a little kid calling names when they have no substance left to argue.
The sad part about this is that I think a lot of people on this blog are willing to exchange ideas with you, even if they have a different opinion than you. Unfortunately, you have time and time again resorted to posting nasty distractions when you do not like someone’s opinion. I am not going to tell you to leave… or to go post on a different blog. That would be too similar to your current tactics. However, I am not sure that it is even worth it at this point to ask you to stop. Just in case, though, know that I am interested in your opinions, and not your put-downs.
Even though you have a very different opinion than me, it is OK if you live in this country. You can think how you like to. You can love America in your way, and I can love it in mine. I don’t pretend to understand everything about how you think and how you show your patriotism. Please, have the courtesy not to pretend that you understand everything about others here, and then ask them to get the heck out of the US for their beliefs. Really, girlfriend, intolerance is not your best color.
On another note…
Alanna,
I LOVE what you said…
“Listen, if you want to write a book like that fine, just don’t lie to me and tell me that you’re pro-immigrant!”
This is very true. I do not like it when people say this is simply an issue of legality, and then turn around and provide evidence that it is about much more than that. It has always seemed to me that organizations like FAIR exploit the prejudices within people, and attempt to give said prejudices a legitimate face.
Of course, there needs to be immigration reform in this country. However, I have a very hard time accepting reform that is built on a foundation of prejudice. I just can’t support it. It is interesting that so many people blogging or even standing up before the Board of Supervisors say prejudiced things about Hispanic or Latino people in the name of bucking political correctness or “being edgy.” Many of these same people then fully expect the world to somehow ignore what they just said, and see them as unbiased and objective, and that this issue has nothing to do with the hatred they just spewed. Unreal…
Elvis,
You are now in moderation. If you had to be part of an open and public discussion, I sincerely doubt you would behave in this manner. Learn some manners, consistently, and you will come out of moderation. If you then come out of moderation, start your offensive behavior again, you will be banned.
In any other circumstances, if this were some group that met on a regular basis to discuss various topics, there would be rules agreed upon by the group. The group here has tried to tell you how insulting your behavior is, you continue to ignore, IF you are ultimately banned, it will be because of your own behavior and no other reason.
They (FAIR) kind of shot themselves in the foot with their own argument. Why would you be against legal immigration?
And FAIR just blew a hole in a lot of people’s argument. It is going to be hard to say ‘go home and come back the right way’ with this bit of information staring us in the face. I guess now they will have to just say ‘Go home!” which is what they really mean anyway.
There are many commenters that have immigrant wives, or so they claim. I wonder how they are feeling this fine Monday morning after reading this. Will they too continue to spout and spew their it’s about “illegal immigration”?
Looks like the cat’s out of the bag now.
From irli.org’s website -
“IRLI seeks to defend the rule of law. IRLI is the public interest law affiliate of the Federation for American Immigration Reform.”
IRLI provided the resolution to the County with the help of Robert Duecaster. Why bother denying that anybody is anti-immigrant, it’s so blantantly obvious!
By the way, this link back to FAIR on IRLI is relatively new; before there was no mention of their connection.
Good job, Sleuth-Mistress Alanna.
It has been very obvious but you have found the connection in writing. No more lying and denying here in Prince William County.
What comes around goes around, Corey.
I feel bad for your wife and child. You have drawn them into a precarious situation via an anti-IMMIGRANT group from whence your policy sprung.
HSM, Stirrup and Stewart can say all they want that they are not anti-immigrant, but when their roots are planted in FAIR’s policy, they are all implicated.
Yes, nice job Alanna. But sad to say, this says it all.
Elena,
I want to say that I disagree with your moderation of Elvis. He may be offensive but I think the best way to deal with it is to encourage people not to respond to him.
Mackie,
I agree with you about Elvis. We should pay him NO ATTENTION. Clearly, he/she is starving to death for it. Let his his nastiness remain for all to read with their own two eyes, and then not say a word to her/him.
There does become a point when ENOUGH IS ENOUGH too. I think he’s real close. If does get moderated and/or banned it’s his own doing, and actually I think that’s exactly what he/she wants. i don’t think they deserve that satisfaction. imho
Yeah, I would keep Tickle Me around, just as a reminder of what not to do, how we don’t want to be and why we are no longer on BVBL. He is also a reminder of what life is like in Serbia, Georgia, China. Chad, the Sudan and other such places (why do we say “the” with Sudan?). His one political thought, one viewpoint anti human rights remind us all why we are glad we are Americans. Talk about shooting yourself inthe foot. He proves us right each and every time he opens his mouth. I like the reminder of what Communism and Dictatorships are all about. Keep him around. He even makes me appreciate Mackie
Isn’t FAIR the group that has the gumball video? That is absolutely anti immigration. Again, the lack of being strategic or being able to stratify a situation is our downfall.
tickle_me_Elvis,
I hope you enjoy your time out. Will you be performing “Jail House Rock” while in time out?
Oh, you are the ONLY one in time out. You don’t have an audience there. And with any luck you won’t have us for an audience. I think all should ignore your ignorance.
And I thought I was waiting in vain to be loved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unfJUqDPpa8
Unfortunately, what we have seen out of Tickle_Me are the same old bully tactics that were applied to the BOCS, Chief Deane, political candidates who didn’t suit the small red circles and people who posted on the dark screen. That is just the MO. Too bad Tickle_Me didn’t know when to turn off the nasty. Once a bully, always a bully, I suppose.
Those red circle types will fade away. Even at the the apex of their power in October, they could muster no more than 20 to 25 people to McCoart. But they caught the political people by surprise with all the faxes and e-mails and they got those on the fence worked up because they were a public and vocal group. Now that the rhetoric has faded and the bills are coming due, everyone else – including those that were on the fence – realize what happened.
Makie,
I understand your point, Elvis provide us the ability to “cut to the chase” with many people who say the they are simply are “rule of law” enforcers and not anti immigrant or anti hispanic. But at some point, people should not have the ability to continually be verbally abusive. It wouldn’t happen in the “real” world, why should we let it happen here. Elvis is only in moderation, meaning that his comments will be viewed and edited if necessary (like his expletive to moon-howler). He is not trustworthy to have free reign on this type of medium.
Chris,
I don’t know what it proves if ultimately gets banned, that he was simply so insulting that people no longer wanted to read his words? I just don’t see the positive in allowing him to continue on his rants. We get the same types of comments, over and over from him.
Unlike the dark screen, you were put in moderation, unbeknownst to you, and with no explanation of why. This situation is completey different. Elvis has been warned to stop his abusive behavior and chose to ignore the warning. Like any naughty child, consistency and follow through is imperative
Juturna,
I see your point, I do, and maybe the point of Elvis, and to an extent this blog, is too point out the fallacy of an Elvis. He’s still in moderation, not banned, and if he posts again, I will approve his comment (minus any f-words, etc). In any group dynamic you have the one member, always craving the attention, which can ultimately distract from the work of the group. But, maybe that is the “work” of our group, to deal with people like Elvis.
Elena, I’m not sure you CAN work with people whose only tactic is attempt to anger people and ruin the discussion. I agree he should be ignored most of the time. Your choice to moderate or not.
Elena is kinder than I am. I am too much of an f-ing idiot to figure out how to release Elvis. I see he used one of his get out of jail free cards.
For me, there is a big blank white spot where he thinks he has left a message.
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Lucky Duck,
I sincerely hope you are correct. I feel that you are. Very few are fooled now. IN fact, as we speak, more and more is being uncovered.
Elena,
I do understand he’s been warned, and I have no problem with what ultimately happens to Elvis. By banning him it will be called “censorship”.There’s NOTHING positive to his tantrums. However, he does provide a certain level of “entertainment”. What ever should become of Elvis doesn’t really matter one way or the other. What ever this blog determines to be fitting for Elvis is fine by me. On one hand I think keep him around, and then on the other hand he deserves to be banned.
I was never a victim of have my comments being put in moderation. My comments were simply deleted on bvbl. I don’t feel I indicated this blog was in any way like the other. I clearly stated some differences yesterday.
Lafayette, err, Chris, welcome to the deleted club. Glad to see you could take “constructive criticism, even if it came with a heavy dose of sarcasm.
Mom,
Thank you. I do have the ability to listen and make adjustments accordingly. I enjoy sarcasm, and even if it my expense.
I’ve been wondering where you were. Did you see by any chance see a story about your “favorites” Toll Brothers in West Virginia. Thousands of dead fish on farmer’s land wash out of the nearby neighborhood. It seems as though they are having serious trouble with storm water pond overflowing and washing away thousands of fish. I’ve tried to dig the clip up from Channel 5, but to no avail. I know how much you like them.
Lafayette(just for you)
Chris & Mom,
A fish story
http://www.journal-news.net/page/content.detail/id/508929.html?nav=5006
RedDawn,
Many thanks for finding that. The visual on tv was horrible.
Well, I do usually treat folks like Elvis as an Advent Project…. had one at work. Designated him one about 11 years ago. Still at it with the same guy. I am forever hopeful. Glad you will keep him around.
Mackie, thought you’d appreciate that. Don’t get too excited. But, fair is fair.
wow, I’m totally flattered with all this attention! I’m glad, really glad, that I’m being warned and not banned to the time out chamber. I think I will stick around if I’m allowed, I need a home and some of you (moon I mean you) seriously entertain me, I totally LIVE for moon’s posts, very John Steinbachish but still very entertaining.
If you keep me around I promise to behave myself, at least enough to keep some civility but not enough to stop being entertaining, at least to myself if not anyone else.
Elvis lives
one of the posters here brought up a seriously good point, how does anyone know I’m not a girl or something in between?
Juturna, Give us a definition of Advent Project. Am I one?
Hi Chris,
I did realize you were being discerning between blogs, I just wanted to clarify for the benefit of “all” readers who might happen along. I also think though, that deleting comments is the same as censorship. Either way, moderation or deleting, there is a controlled conversation. From a counselor perspective, I see us trying to promote dialogue on this blog, in such a way, that constructive results are possible. I love a good debate, I dont mind if people disagree. I might not agree with Michael, regarding most of what he writes, but he is ALWAYS respectful. I think, in any group setting, there must be some rules, such that, communication, give and take, is possible. I’m sure Elvis will be pleased to hear, as the brunt of most of his nastiness, it was just getting to the point where I was tired of being the target. Even if it is only written words, the continuous insults were getting to me. I’m sure Elvis is smiling, knowing his meanness was effective. I still feel sorry for him, but my pity doesn’t have to mean I will continually indulge his nasty behavior.
nah….I’m not smiling, had a really rough day today, even though I’m being moderated I know you’ll see this.
Well Elvis, I guess I am somewhat relieved you are not smiling. Sorry you had a rough day.
I’m relieved too, never been kicked out of a blog before. A bar yes, but a blog never. But then again, first time for everything I suppose. Did anyone hear that schlitz beer is coming back? the old-time recipe and everything, it’s classic like drinking keystone when I was 15 or something.
Moonhowler – No you are not an Advent project. My definition is taking on something difficult and finding a blessing. Anything viable counts.
Elvis, since you said you are at the courhouse every day, if you were something “in between”, you would be the talk of the courts and easily identified. So we can scratch that choice. We’re back to two.
Far too much discussion about Elvis. Believe this is the second thread dedicated to him/her/it.
I would love to know what Mr. Stewarts thoughts are about this. Of course, he might not see how it impacts him?
or
Anyone hear Imus on Jon Edwards today? I was laughing out loud.
Juturna, that definition has the ring of a Catholic school education and perhaps a Jesuit University.
…… and I thought I was being soooo secular in choosing my words!!!
Can’t hide it under a bushel.
Some times you gotta dig deep to find the missing blessing.
I too would like to know what Corey thinks about FAIR’s anti immigrant stance? The reality is that he did not know that IRLI was an arm of FAIR, he did not know that were were to be their “experiment”. But now, he does know, and yet he still has not made the correction to his tride and true mantra. It has been awhile since we have heard anything from him, maybe he will finally just let immigration lie and go back to his original smart growth platform. He did vote the right way on the Rural Crescent. Maybe now he can mend fences with the business community and start figuring out a way to heal our image in PW.
I know what you mean Lucky Duck. There have been times I have had to dig deep to find that hidden blessing.
No way we are going to girly-up Elvis. The King cannot be a queen in cyberland. Big E, if you are a girl, you just have to girl-up and tell us and turn into Elvis-etta or something.
You told us you were a guy and we are taking you at your word.
Talk of the court house indeed! Thanks, Lucky Duck, for a much needed laugh.
Juturna, I am just not getting it. JV over here. Surrounded by it but I didn’t quite make the grade.
Elena,
I don’t like the deleting either.
Hopefully, Elvis will play nicely.
I say let Elvis reign and do it his way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFEU_9lZrTk
Who are WE to say if it is wrong or right?
Moon-howler,
So a bunch of overly nosy people gossiping (and we all know how nasty gossip can get) about a deeply personal and private lifestyle choice is in your book ‘good for a laugh’….
But if I link to some professionally produced comedy skits they are
The only difference I can discern is that the comedy skits I linked to aren’t ‘good for a laugh’ at the expense of a real person…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MWSGbh-bi4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4wUwk7-7Vc
Elena, I don’t think Corey Stewart is letting the issue of immigration die down. From yesterday’s Examiner:
http://www.examiner.com/a-1529821~Stewart_s_crackdown_in_Virginia.html
Mackie,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRWQ9tjszpg
INTENT, that is all I can say, INTENT
Red Dawn,
That was hilarious! Someday I’ll have the guts to order my sausage and egg biscuits with a tight rap.
We must always strive to keep it real…even when keeping it real goes wrong…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CtkBjJ0PTA
Censored, that is a damning set of comments made by Stewart. He doesn’t care if he is thought of as a bully? What kind of image is that for him as a representative of the County?
The best political minds realize you cannot win every time. There has to be a give and
take with opposing viewpoints.
What a fool he has become.
Censored,
Well, I do call it bullying and will continue to call it bullying. Nice he acknowledges some of us think that.
Corey allowed an outside group to come in to OUR county and set policy. He can deny all he wants, but he hooked up with a group that is fundamentally against all immigration. How is he going to spin that one with the Examiner?
How can Corey spin that to his wife?
Mackie & Red Dawn,
You two need to get a “youtube chat room” for yourselves.
Mackie,
CRISPY
Keep it real, is right. I believe it is the SECRET of life
opps…forgot he video Look at where it took him?
Peace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRWQ9tjszpg
Slither hither,
ANOTHER conspiracy,LOL! Wide open here with NOTHING to hide
–EWWWWW and me being a girl could say I left myself wide open for the NASTY joke 
lol NOT!!!!!!!
just giggles
Once again, Corey proves me wrong. Thanks for the link Censored. I think I’ll make it a thread. Now he wants to have it both ways? Allow FAIR to dictate our county policy, allow a nativist to push through a new resolution with bullying tactics and Corey is proud of that stance? Not the guy I thought I knew. I really wish he would comment on FAIR’s new “outing” of its real intent, to curb all immigration. Why aren’t the reporters asking Corey about this hypocrisy?
One interesting low-light that hopped out at me was the fact that Corey had told Dan Genz that the Immigration Resolution was strengthened on April 29, when in fact, it was neutered from its original form. So Corey is not only lying to his public here in PWC but also to the D.C. Examiner.
He simply could not hide his ambitions.
Here is a QUESTION that I would like to ask EVERYONE:
What would change if Corey or Greg admit that they were wrong? Not so much if wrong but Misguided( I ask this with the theory that it was TWO separate agendas)
If we get a sorry, what does that change? I only ask this because of Robb Pearson.
Maybe Elvis is in the courthouse every day because he is always being sued?
Corey was ambitious for another seat (GA)and fought hard to gain his current position- correct me if I am wrong and it back fired. Who pays who? Who lobbies for LOCAL to earmark for future, whatever? Still learning, so it is a vague question. I am just not that STUPID that I learned from a friend to “follow the money”
KG,
That would be fun
If anyone has ever been to the court house in Fairfax, there was “courthouse Bob”
Chris? Where are you? What about the other dude that made it his passion to go thru all the records and FIND mistakes? A millionaire to boot?
I will see if I can dig an article that featured him
I remember seeing him everyday with his brief case ( I think patched with duct tape) suit and all taking a smoke break with all of us
OMG! I’d forgot about “courthouse Bob”. His famous last words “smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em”. I just talked to my other half who is at the Fairfax courthouse everyday. “Courthouse Bob” has not been around since the renovations began a few years back. He also said that “Crazy George” still surfaces from time to time. Did you know he used to own the “infamous purple house” in the City of Manassas?
I’m glad to say we don’t have those types at PW courthouse. Well, perhaps Elvis she/he REALLY exists.
Chris,
Yes,I think George was his name.Purple house?..to be PRIVATE…H?
Cheers
This should just make our point, to NOT censor and let it be ( Beatles, video/song comes to mind, lol ) Anyway, ANYONE can be at the courthouse on a daily basis…..ANYONE. IT is public
Yes, George was his name and yes H.
Mackie,
The video that THOUGHT I was leaving you at August 2008, 21:32
Was a duplicate( of big mack attack) and this is what I mean to leave
ugust 2008, 21:32
testing….WEIRD IN SCRIPT….but supposed to be William Hung/she bangs…no talent but his heart showed and became an icon
here it is..wgas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0EbdVIxGB0
I expect John Steinbach is probably a much nicer person than I am. He appears to think of others long before he thinks of himself. But thanks, King. I take it in the spirit it was given and at the same time, recognize a person who seems to be a rather caring type guy. I don’t know Mr. Steinbach but he seems to be a decent sort from what others, both friend and foe, have said about him.
John Steinbach strikes me as one of the original 60’s protesters. He’s great as far as I am concerned, though his methods are not mine.
steinbach is a “power to the people” type guy, not a bad sort of chap but I dont agree with the way he plugs his pseudo-communist type views about the same as I dont think KG is being “blunt” or others think illegals should be given a pass. perception is each and every persons own reality. what others see is not necessarily what “you” see. damn, I’m thinking myself in circles thinking about it.
I’ve actually met him once, during one of the rallies at the past. I dont support anyone, just happened to mosey on by while he was waving his fist and such. he truly believes what he’s talking about (even though I dont agree with him) and that’s to be respected for sure.
as for Nancy Lyall, if anyone truly deserves contempt it’s her. un-articulate and she totally makes it tough for anyone to be won over to her “cause” whatever it may be. and that’s the problem with her group, what IS their cause? when you get down to the root of it, it’s amnesty for all and that just does not fly with the majority of american’s these days.
Mr. Steinbach is a nice enough guy. A true believer in open borders. In fact, during a conversation with him, he related that he does not believe in any national borders what so ever, that a person should be able to move about anywhere they wish to go. He said his belief grew out of working with migrant workers in his youth.
Ms. Lyall did her constitutents a disfavor throughout the protest phase. She readily admitted that she had not prepared her group for the possible failure of their campaign. They had expected to show up in large numbers (and they did) and that their voices would be heard and counted but they were not and she stated that she hated to “see their hopes dashed”. She knew from the debate that it was a losing cause but in my opinion, she did not share those feelings with the masses.
Elvis, This might come as a shock to you, but I pretty much agree with much that you have said. However, I disagree that Nancy Lyall is inarticulate. I might not like what she says but most of the time she says it well enough for me to grasp. I think as she become less relevant, she puts less thought into what she says.
Lucky Duck, I agree with you also. I do not think that NL prepared her people, followers, for the disappointment that was to come. I felt she was out of touch and gave them false hopes. John Steinbach just comes across as a more genuine person who truly cares for human beings, regardless of how altruistic his endeavors are. NL appears to be in it for ‘the cause.’ I am not going to the wall on this, just offering up an opinion.
FAIR has been consistent in its call for less overall immigration for nearly 30 years. We have always been forthright about both our intentions and motives. Read our website and make up your own mind. Corey Stewart follows his own drummer and certainly makes his own decisions independent of FAIR in any case.
By the way, Mark Krikorian works for CIS, not IRLI.
Dan Stein
President
FAIR
BFD, Dan-o!
What if Corey’s “drummer” a/k/a “puppeteer” a/k/a “handler” follows the gospel of FAIR?
Obey your master!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z-hEyVQDRA
Hi Dan,
Welcome to Anti. The point, is that Corey was totally unaware of who you or IRLI was in the beginning of this “experiment” in PWC. I wonder, had he known the full scope of your influence on immigration, would he still have been so likely to use this issue has his “winning” platform tool ? Many of us, once having done the most rudimentary of research, can see that all tentacles of anti-immigration rhetoric lead back to F.A.I.R. Center for Immigration Studies is another example of that tentacle. IRLI, CIS……they are both the same in my book. They are still beholden to F.A.I.R.
But back to the subject at hand. To suggest that sprawl and lack of infrastructure is the fault of immigration is simply untrue. Strong labor markets, cheap land and rising housing costs are the cause of sprawl Dan. Poor land use decisions and planning are the cause of sprawl and burdens on local infrastructure. Maybe you should talk to the Coalition for Smart Growth to become better informed as to the causes of sprawl. The drop in interest rates allowed people to buy more for less (so to speak at least) and thus you saw a real estate boom that allowed sprawl to explode in the exurbs.
Dan,
I have a question for you. How is your organizations goal of controlling immigration any different from that of the immigration movement in the early 1920’s. During that time, there was a push to not only control the number of immigrants entering the U.S but also regulate immigrants from specific regions of Europe.
It should be noted that the CIS is still part of John Tanton’s( founder of FAIR) network. If you work for an organization, chances are you share the same philosophy as the founder. By the way, I thought your “intentions and motives” were to keep the US population at a level in order to insure continued political dominance by “white America.”
wow,
this is a feel good, I wanna hug moment! people actually agree with me. I totally agree, it was a lost cause to begin with. If ever a inopportune time to push that cause is this, during the falling economy with sept. 11th on peoples minds still illegal aliens getting amnesty and open borders is doomed to fail.
I’m not a big believer in big johns ideals, I just think he’s a nice guy who actually believes what he’s talking about. believers in anything are few and far between these days.
I also forgot to mention, that as a founding member of the PWC chapter of Voters to Stop Sprawl, NO WHERE do we list immigration as a core reason for sprawl.
I don’t get it. I read this blog and I get the sense that most of you don’t think this country should regulate immigration at all? Or that states and localities shouldn’t maintain policies that are consistent with the federal immigration scheme? I understand the need for hysterics — I guess (LOL) — but what this issue needs is reflection, not reflexes. Corey Stewart has just done what many other public spirited leaders would do: recognize the need for ensuring that taxpayer-funded services are reserved for those who have a right to be in the country. Is there something here that’s not clear, or do you all just think the nation state is antiquated and we shouldn’t bother with enforceable limits to immigration?
To Elena, I’d suggest you go back to your history a bit more to discover the role many labor unions and related American-worker interests had in demanding limits to immigration in the 1920s. What labor wanted was a need to limit immigration in order to obtain bargaining leverage. How can any union successfully strike for lower wages without limits to the labor supply? Check out the ILGWU resolutions dating back as early as 1905.
Dan Stein
No. That isn’t what Corey Stewart has done. It may have been what he wanted to do. But in the end he wasted a lot of our tax dollars investigating keeping Seniors off the Bluebird bus and out of a few social programs that no one seems sure that illegal immigrants took advantage of. The fact that county staff even investigated the possibility of keeping immigrants off of our roads and preventing them from accessing the PWC website is ludicrous! The 287(g) program was already in use at the jail.
Don’t put words in people’s mouths by implying that no one wants immigration regulated. Most people here merely want a realistic solution to dealing with the people who are already here. They’re not going to “self-deport” and we’re not going to round up 10-15,000,000 people.
Your organization with its email loop, GregL, Corey, John Stirrup, Robert Duecaster, and HSM are responsible for the drain on our county’s finances at a time when we can least afford the debt – to say nothing of the negative image given the county. How about you and your organization ponying up the money we’ve had to spend to pursue this folly?