Comments on: Liberty Wall Hearing Postponed

By: Michael

Michael — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:46:14 +0000

Moonhowler, you have not given me a headache, most of your comments are well though out. I only disagree with some of them, specifically those that hint at or directly advocate we need try to “fix” the system by creating a conceptual argument that we are obligated to give amnesty to those “illegals” who have broken the law. Amnesty was a disaster the first time and will be an even larger disaster the next time. I stand by those “majority” of citizens who want the existing law enforced in it’s entirety. The views of most of those on this blog are in the “minority” on the issue of law enforcement. That is why ultimately those who believe this way will lose. The fight is not about racism, or ethnic “evils” it is simply about enforceing or not enforcing a gender, racial, religious, ethnic group neutral law. That is as simple a problem as you can define and not give people “headaches”.

I am with ALL of you that racism and ethnic wars or anger is “ilegal” and irresponsible, I am just pointing out to ALL of you that significant numbers of “minority” groups are ALSO guilty of modern racism, and ethnic hatred by their current “exclusion” practices and “ethnic focused behaviors and political alignments”, ALL expressing bigotry toward the “vast majority”, for simply desiring law enforcement and “I don’t agree with any one who is demaning any “more” than that, specifically ethnic “wars”. I join you in the attack on a few racists on EITHER SIDE.

By: Moon-howler

Moon-howler — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:29:14 +0000

Rick, the city of Manassas will work it all out, eventually. I trust you have read the postings about this subject over on bvbl? Several city employees have written several very intelligent, informative posts about how this all works.

By: Moon-howler

Moon-howler — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:27:24 +0000

Michael, if I am giving you a headache you have more than gotten even with me.

No one here has EVER said that Native Americans are the offspring of hispanics on this blog. I seriously doubt if you have a clue what any of us think. You come over here and assume the entire blog things something and start that finger a wagging.

I agree. Mrs. Cheney has a very nice blog. It is attractive and any information that goes up will be very well researched, albeit usually from conservative sources which is fine. I would expect Mrs. Cheney, who is a conservative, to research using conservative sources. Since she is new to the game, it is great that you are giving her such good advertisement. Have you told her lately how great her blog is?

By: Censored bybvbl

Censored bybvbl — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:09:43 +0000

Yawn…

By: Rick Bentley

Rick Bentley — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:38:34 +0000

When his property burned down, was he renting to illegals? How many were crammed in to the dilapidated property?

Seems to me this guy is basically throwing a fit because the city won’t let him build chicken coops and shacks on his property.

By: michael

michael — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:26:01 +0000

AW’s site is really the first blog I’ve seen on the “illegal” immigration debate that will not leave you with a headache and worry for your health resulting from the stress of dealing with ignorance and malicious malice, as a cover for emotional hatred for gender, recial, ethnic and religious groups not like yourselves. Both sites (antibvbl and bvbl) are sites for racial “bigots” to each spew their hatred for the other and spin misinformation about the other to influence political groups and rebellious groups to action. Personally in looking at the debate I simply side with the “group” that favors lawfulness and law enforcement to protect the entire community equally. AW has that mental ability to rise above the hatred and address the “facts” and enforce the law fairly and equitably for all. She gets my vote for good leadership and wise counsel.

By: michael

michael — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:06:01 +0000

I’m too tired to re-write it, and to promote AWCheney’s great and much needed new site on “illegal” immigration (a much better, responsible journalism, with better facts, better judgment, and less political bias than either bvbl or antibvbl) and I predict will replace both of your sites in balanced and intellectual immigration debate.

Read for yourself some factual information about the concept of just who is “native” in America. The facts will suprise you and make you angry if you are not Celtic (12,000 years ago) or Asian (10,000 years ago), or Australian aborigines (13-15,000 years ago). They are the original “native” Americans, not the people you claim are “native” in this eyesore of a biased racial bigot’s hate board.

http://scheney.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/thomas-jefferson-and-the-immigration-debate/#comment-75

By: michael

michael — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 04:53:52 +0000

Reference WHWN 4 Jul 16:46

Obviously some facts from paleo indian history are missing from the concept of “native” american, some of you so fervently believe was only recent hsitory. Native Americans are actually of Celtic and Asian descent (12,000 years ago), not hispanic descent as so many of you claim and believe that started with Cortez’s invasion (1519) and conquering of the Aztecs. The facts are in paleo indian history and archeology records, you should read some of them before you believe in a “hispanic” or “native” American myth about “turtle island” as an argument to “owning” the country.

By: kgotthardt

kgotthardt — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:05:30 +0000

Yikes! That post needed some severe editing. Sorry, folks, for the tense problems and typos.

By: kgotthardt

kgotthardt — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:04:22 +0000

You can be a slave to your job meaning you are in and endless cycle of working for unethical people, doing your best, sarcrificing for the sake of KEEPING a job, endure discrimination and hatred while on the job, but you are still poor. You can be denied benefits, safety, respect, job security and good management yet still be poor….yes, this is just another kind of slavery, SA. Child labor was a kind of slavery. Slavery had nothing to do with whether or not laborors are being paid. Note the other definitions of slavery:

–a state of subjection like that of a slave: He was kept in slavery by drugs.
–severe toil; drudgery.

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