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		<title>By: redawn</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/29/classic-illegals-god-and-gospel/#comment-3500</link>
		<dc:creator>redawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Karla Homolka</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/29/classic-illegals-god-and-gospel/#comment-3193</link>
		<dc:creator>Karla Homolka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 19:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Greg is a moron.  
2. Racism is bad.
3. Illegal immigration is against the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Greg is a moron.<br />
2. Racism is bad.<br />
3. Illegal immigration is against the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/29/classic-illegals-god-and-gospel/#comment-299</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One-eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union even by war, while the Government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it. Neither party expected for the war the magnitude or the duration which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with or even before the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God&#039;s assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men&#039;s faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. &quot;Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh.&quot; If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman&#039;s two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said &quot;the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.&quot;

Abraham Lincoln, Second Inaugural Address, 1865.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One-eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union even by war, while the Government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it. Neither party expected for the war the magnitude or the duration which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with or even before the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God&#8217;s assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men&#8217;s faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. &#8220;Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh.&#8221; If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman&#8217;s two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said &#8220;the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.&#8221;</p>
<p>Abraham Lincoln, Second Inaugural Address, 1865.</p>
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		<title>By: kgotthardt</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/29/classic-illegals-god-and-gospel/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>kgotthardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 13:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this guy is scary.  Glad other people see it too.  

You know there is &quot;crazy&quot; and there&#039;s just plain &quot;nuts.&quot;  

&quot;Crazy&quot; people like me aren&#039;t scary and dangerous.  People who are &quot;nuts&quot; are.  

This guy is a certifiable nut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this guy is scary.  Glad other people see it too.  </p>
<p>You know there is &#8220;crazy&#8221; and there&#8217;s just plain &#8220;nuts.&#8221;  </p>
<p>&#8220;Crazy&#8221; people like me aren&#8217;t scary and dangerous.  People who are &#8220;nuts&#8221; are.  </p>
<p>This guy is a certifiable nut.</p>
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		<title>By: independent thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/29/classic-illegals-god-and-gospel/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>independent thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 03:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t remember if I did or not.  I will make sure to pass it along. Thanks for the reminder!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t remember if I did or not.  I will make sure to pass it along. Thanks for the reminder!</p>
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		<title>By: Firedancer</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/29/classic-illegals-god-and-gospel/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Firedancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 03:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT, thanks for posting the characteristics of narcissistic personality disorder.  I remember they were posted awhile back on bvbl.  They accurately describe what we see.

BTW, do you know if this clip has been sent to SPLC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT, thanks for posting the characteristics of narcissistic personality disorder.  I remember they were posted awhile back on bvbl.  They accurately describe what we see.</p>
<p>BTW, do you know if this clip has been sent to SPLC?</p>
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		<title>By: Juturna</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/29/classic-illegals-god-and-gospel/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>Juturna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pluuuezzzzzeeee don&#039;t remind me.  To say he has issues is putting it mildly.  Now what do you think the Republican Party of Virginia will say when they realize this guy is big pals and supporters of Marshall and Stewart.  Too late for them to detatch themselves.  There is video from the Stonewall Jackson MS event as well that shows our local leader pumping his fist alongside Mr. Wingnut.  That would go over well in Richmond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pluuuezzzzzeeee don&#8217;t remind me.  To say he has issues is putting it mildly.  Now what do you think the Republican Party of Virginia will say when they realize this guy is big pals and supporters of Marshall and Stewart.  Too late for them to detatch themselves.  There is video from the Stonewall Jackson MS event as well that shows our local leader pumping his fist alongside Mr. Wingnut.  That would go over well in Richmond.</p>
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		<title>By: independent thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/29/classic-illegals-god-and-gospel/#comment-233</link>
		<dc:creator>independent thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just watching it again, Juturna, and my skin just crawls.  That pretend false empathy Greg has torwards the &quot;illegals&quot; and their plight.  I wonder if he practices that in the mirror to see how well his acting job is?  How can ANY normal half way intelligent person believe this guys garbage.  

Proposed Amended Criteria for the Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Feels grandiose and self-important (e.g., exaggerates accomplishments, talents, skills, contacts, and personality traits to the point of lying, demands to be recognised as superior without commensurate achievements); 

Requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention and affirmation – or, failing that, wishes to be feared and to be notorious (Narcissistic Supply); 

Feels entitled. Demands automatic and full compliance with his or her unreasonable expectations for special and favourable priority treatment; 

Devoid of empathy. Is unable or unwilling to identify with, acknowledge, or accept the feelings, needs, preferences, priorities, and choices of others; 

Behaves arrogantly and haughtily. Feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, &quot;above the law&quot;, and omnipresent (magical thinking). Rages when frustrated, contradicted, or confronted by people he or she considers inferior to him or her and unworthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just watching it again, Juturna, and my skin just crawls.  That pretend false empathy Greg has torwards the &#8220;illegals&#8221; and their plight.  I wonder if he practices that in the mirror to see how well his acting job is?  How can ANY normal half way intelligent person believe this guys garbage.  </p>
<p>Proposed Amended Criteria for the Narcissistic Personality Disorder</p>
<p>Feels grandiose and self-important (e.g., exaggerates accomplishments, talents, skills, contacts, and personality traits to the point of lying, demands to be recognised as superior without commensurate achievements); </p>
<p>Requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention and affirmation – or, failing that, wishes to be feared and to be notorious (Narcissistic Supply); </p>
<p>Feels entitled. Demands automatic and full compliance with his or her unreasonable expectations for special and favourable priority treatment; </p>
<p>Devoid of empathy. Is unable or unwilling to identify with, acknowledge, or accept the feelings, needs, preferences, priorities, and choices of others; </p>
<p>Behaves arrogantly and haughtily. Feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, &#8220;above the law&#8221;, and omnipresent (magical thinking). Rages when frustrated, contradicted, or confronted by people he or she considers inferior to him or her and unworthy.</p>
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		<title>By: Juturna</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/29/classic-illegals-god-and-gospel/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>Juturna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, let&#039;s look at this way guys, you can&#039;t fix stupid and that&#039;s exactly what this is.  There are no deep rooted beliefs in this person whatsoever.  Maybe I am too blunt?

Just remembering this tape when I saw it first makes me positively ill all over again.  Anyone that believes in any form of spirituality or God could not watch this Jim Jones-esque monologue and retain their senses.  Pass the kool-aid folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, let&#8217;s look at this way guys, you can&#8217;t fix stupid and that&#8217;s exactly what this is.  There are no deep rooted beliefs in this person whatsoever.  Maybe I am too blunt?</p>
<p>Just remembering this tape when I saw it first makes me positively ill all over again.  Anyone that believes in any form of spirituality or God could not watch this Jim Jones-esque monologue and retain their senses.  Pass the kool-aid folks.</p>
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		<title>By: New Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.antibvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/29/classic-illegals-god-and-gospel/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>New Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another inconsistency seems to be how he faults immigration attorneys for practicing the law on behalf of their &#039;illegal&#039; clients.  What&#039;s the problem if they are practicing the &#039;law&#039;?  If it&#039;s God&#039;s law then why shouldn&#039;t it be practiced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another inconsistency seems to be how he faults immigration attorneys for practicing the law on behalf of their &#8216;illegal&#8217; clients.  What&#8217;s the problem if they are practicing the &#8216;law&#8217;?  If it&#8217;s God&#8217;s law then why shouldn&#8217;t it be practiced.</p>
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